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5/1/12

CATHOLICS ARE EVIL

Reminder:  This blog is printed into hard cover books for my children.  I talk about personal beliefs, religion, parenting and memories so my kids will have these words to read after I'm dead and gone.  This blog is a family legacy made for my children. It is what it is.

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Kids, you may remember that I warned you about some people who think Catholics are damned to hell; people who will tell you this outright. In general you will come in contact with fellow Christians who may have questions about our faith, and ask about the Catholic religion with earnest regard for what we are thinking.  These fellow Christians are respectful and truly interested in knowing why in the world we believe the way we do. It is fine and fun and wonderful to have such loving Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ whom we can chat with amicably.

There are, however, some people who full out hate us.

Please remember that these "type" of people think they are waging a war against Satan. We can give them some leniency because they are often not well learned and unable (or unwilling) to research history for themselves.  These are people who often parrot what others have told them rather than researching whether what they are parroting is true. Because of these limitations, we can (and should) breathe through the jolt of shock and do our best to state the truths to rebut. 

Below you will view an example of the type of...shall I say passion?....that can spew from ones mouth when they are adamantly waging war against a perceived evil...(ie: us)   I am going to do my best to answer the questions that were posed to me in the comments from this post.  I hope this will help you in the future. 

The question (statement) from the commenter will be written first and then my answer. 
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1. I attended a catholic funereal where the priest explained to everyone that the person who died was going to heaven because she did a lot of good works and that is how we all get there. They do believe that and teach that.

ANSWER:  I wasn’t there to hear how this particular priest worded his comment, however it is entirely possible that your understanding of his words may have been clouded by your particular views.  However, to answer the question of “Works/Faith”are as follows.

How can we hear; “Well done, though good and faithful servant” if we do not DO things on earth to please God? (Matthew 25:21 (KJV)

Catholicsdo believe that faith and God's grace will get them into Heaven, accompanied by the work we do for Christ on earth. There are many verses in the Bible stating that entrance into Heaven is not as simple as saying "I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior." Let us see what the Bible has to say about salvation:
(Phil 2:12) -…work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
(Rom 2:5-6) - …the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
(James 2:14) - What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him?
(Mt 16:27) - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
(2 Cor. 5:10) - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

2.  Baptist are not protestant. They were the first church, and were around way before catholic's. They were first called Anna Baptist and then just Baptist. We go by the Bible and what it teaches, nothing else. Not confusing at all.

ANSWER:  I believe you mean Anabaptist.  The name Anabaptist is derived from the Latin term anabaptista, or "one who baptizes over again." This name was given them in reference to the practice of re-baptizing converts who already had been baptized as infants.  This movement began in the 1500’s to “re-baptize” Catholics.  Obviously they did not predate Catholics, as Catholic means Universal and was the name for all Christians before the reformation.

3.  The catholic church also did not conform the Bible. The King James Bible, the first Bible.

ANSWER:   Let me just say that no matter how you slice it, The King James Bible was not the first Bible.  You don't have to take this Catholic's viewpoint on this one.  History from Secular to Christian to Atheist viewpoints will attest to this.  The fact that King James was born over 1500 years after Jesus' death is a good indicator that the KJB was NOT the first Bible.   

Here's the short version: Pope Damasus I assembled the first list of books of the Bible at the Council of Rome in AD 382. He commissioned Saint Jerome to produce a reliable and consistent text by translating the original Greek and Hebrew texts into Latin. This translation became known as the Latin Vulgate Bible and in 1546 at the Council of Trent was declared by the Roman Catholic Church to be the only authentic and official Bible.   In 1604….1222 years after the Bible was formed…The newly crowned King James convened the Hampton Court Conference. That gathering proposed a new English version in response to the perceived problems of earlier translations as detected by the Puritan faction of the Church of England.

If you believe that the King James Version of the Bible is the first Bible and the only source to get one into Heaven, then those who were Christians for the 1604 years before he had the Bible translated were damned to hell…IF what you’re saying is true.  Surely you jest.

4.   The Pope NEVER spoke of being "born-again." The Pope NEVER made any public profession of faith ALONE in Jesus Christ.

ANSWER:  That is true.  The Pope would never state that Faith Alone would get a person to Heaven because Faith Alone is NOT Biblical. We must pick up or cross daily and DO the work God has planned for our lives.  Again, our works will not “Save” us but Faith and Following Christ’s path for our lives, work together for His purpose. 
(Phil 2:12) -…work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
(Rom 2:5-6) - …the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
(James 2:14) - What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him?
(Mt 16:27) - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
(2 Cor. 5:10) - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
5.  There is NOTHING in the Word of God about the Immaculate Conception of Mary. (was added to catholic doctrine in 1950)

ANSWER:   Mary’s Immaculate Conception IS in the Bible. 

Adam and Eve were sent to earth sinless.  When they sinned, they "ruined" everything.   We see in Genesis 3:15 the first mention of Mary.  We can see Mary, the “woman”; the Mother of the Messiah.  At that point GOD put "a condition of enmity" between her and Satan.  God himself placed that condition between her and Satan...because He can do that.  Mary’s victory over Satan would not have been perfect if she had ever been under Satan’s dominion. Consequently she entered this world without the stain of original sin, like Adam and Eve, due to God's command and promise to Satan in Genesis. BUT only because GOD allowed it to be so for Jesus sake.
 
For Example: Just think of the Ark of the Covenant.  People could not even touch it or they would die! 

2 Samuel 6:6-7 King James Version (KJV) 6And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.  7And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

 Mary CARRIED Jesus in her womb!

Mary was not "perfect" in herself, because there was no perfect human on earth...no not one!  She was human BUT God put enmity between her and Satan ALLOWING her to be sinless FOR Jesus sake and Jesus WAS her savior! (Luke 1:46) She was NOT a "perfect human" on her own or by herself. That's impossible.  She also needed Jesus as her savior.  The Catholic Teachings go something like this:  The early Fathers of the church...before the Bible was "made" and before printing presses were invented....passed on Jesus' teachings by mouth.  They said orally that “the knot of Eve’s disobedience was untied by Mary’s obedience: what the virgin Eve bound through her disbelief, The Virgin Mary loosened by her faith” (Lumen Gentium 56).  That teaching was highlighted in Mary being the New Eve sent by God; prophesied by God Himself in Genesis.

6.  There is NOTHING in the Bible about the Rosary or praying to God through Mary.

ANSWER:  Asking one of the cloud of witnesses to pray for us is no different than asking our friends on earth to pray for us.  Catholics recognize the huge difference between honor and worship. They worship Christ. They honor Mary. (Hebrews 11 thru 12:1)

Catholics want to adore Mary and give her a place of honor in their lives because they are afraid they will offend Jesus if they don't acknowledge His Mother. (Luke 1:42 & Luke 1:48)

They know that we are to honor our mother and father in Christ so, if Jesus was fully God and He was fully man on this earth also...making him our God AND our brother "in Christ"...we should Honor Our Mother in Christ. She IS Jesus' Mother chosen by God. She accepted the huge sacrifice to be Christ’s mother. She is a wonderful woman of complete faith who we can look up to as an example of COMPLETE obedience to God’s will.  She conceived Jesus from the Holy Spirit, she was THERE when Jesus was born, she raised Him and she watched Him die. She was at the foot of the cross agonizing. A Catholic can't comprehend NOT honoring her.

The issue for Protestants is that we don't ever, ever talk to anyone but Jesus. We see any chatter between ourselves and someone in Heaven as worship. Catholics, however, talk with their brothers and sisters in Christ in Heaven all the time. They read Hebrews 11 thru 12:1 and believe that when we die, we can be part of the cloud of witnesses.  Though our bodies died on earth, our spirit is alive and still able to worship Christ and pray for our fellow brothers and sisters.  

THE ROSARY:   The Rosary is a meditation on the Life of Jesus.  The Rosary is all about thinking about the fact that God Himself came to earth for us and suffered life as a human so that we can be saved. I understand how some people could think that it is worship to Mary because we are asking her to pray for us a LOT during our meditation on Christ's life, however, the Rosary is not a worship to Mary. 

7. There's NOTHING in the Bible about digesting Jesus' flesh and blood. Roman Catholics literally believe that they're eating Jesus.

ANSWER:   

John 6:53-58

King James Version (KJV)
 53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. 54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
 56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. 57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. 58This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

Luke 22: 17And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:  18For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

8. There is nothing in the Bible about priests being celibate.

ANSWER: Scripture fairly consistently awards celibacy a higher spiritual calling than marriage. ...it is well for them to remain unmarried as I am...it is well for you to remain as you are...do not seek a wife...he who refrains from marriage will do better...(I Cor., chapters 7-8 and 32-38)

Paul says that celibacy provides "unhindered devotion to the Lord. " (1 cor 7:35) Jesus tells us "it is better not to marry...let anyone accept this who can." (Mat 19:10-12)

Some biblical arguments for a married priesthood have been set out citing 1 Tim. 3: 2, 12 and Titus 1: 6 that a bishop or a deacon should be "the husband of one wife." A careful read of these passages points to Paul's concern about remarried priests. Catholics feel the section is aimed at removing those who are on their second marriages, rather than pushing for a married clergy. This is reflected by the Eastern Orthodox who do not allow remarriage of widowed priests. Although Paul did not expressly lay out a married priesthood he consistently held celibacy as preferable.

In Jewish law the priesthood was passed on by blood relation. Marriage was therefore necessary, but even so, Jewish priests of the Old Testament were required to abstain from sex during the periods when they were serving in the Temple for spiritual reasons. Catholic priests serve in the Temple every day. (source)

9. There is NOTHING in the Bible about purgatory.

ANSWER:  Yes, there is. There are a LOT of verses that refer to the place between here and Heaven where souls reside. 

Read a LOT more HERE

I understand your thought process, though.  Purgatory is a completely foreign concept to Protestants. I can safely say that most protestants have never read the writings of the Early Church leaders...(the leaders of the Churches right after Christ's resurrection)…before The King James Version of the Bible was even compiled.  That's true for me anyway. I didn’t even know there were records about how churches were run before the Bible was compiled and what-not.  The idea that it was "common knowledge" that there could be a "walk of fire" has never been presented to most Protestants.  This is why we cannot understand how we would "Need" a "Walk of Fire" if Jesus has saved us and forgiven us from our sins.

Here’s The "Rub": there is often talk among Protestants about what happens if we are about to have a car wreck or if our heart suddenly stops beating and we don't have time to pray for forgiveness....knowing that we all sin every day.   We all "assume" that we are forgiven because of Jesus' Precious Grace....however....we do have this nagging knowledge that "NO" sin will enter into Heaven. (ack!)  This is the place that ties that little psychological dance into a nice bow for me.  I understand the "need" for “a walk of fire” in "that" circumstance....though I still believe Jesus blood covers every sin...but we still pray for forgiveness every day...so...you can see the circle of never-ending thought there.

Side Note:  I "think" that the big issue with Purgatory is that many Protestants "think" Catholics are trying to "pray people out of Hell."  We don't think of Purgatory at all so to us, it's hell...not a walk of fire.  We also "think" that Catholics assume they will automatically get to go to either Heaven or Purgatory just because they are Catholic.  We "think" that Catholics believe they are safe from hell right after their infant baptism.   Which, my protestant friends, is NOT the case...And...If a person is going to hell, purgatory is NOT a stop on that trip. So, you know...we can stop thinking that now. ;o)

10.  Matthew 23:9 outright forbids calling any priest "Father." So why do Catholics do it?

ANSWER:  Matthew 23:9 is quoted quite often to tell Catholics that calling their priest Father is putting him in the place of Jesus and/or goes against scriptural teachings.  The truth is that the Bible actually references people as "Father" 1206 times and Five hundred fifty eight times the word "fathers" is used. (Biblical quotes cited below)

Oddly enough, when the entire passage of Matthew 23:9 is read in the Bible, it can be seen that...well...Here you read it.

Matthew 23: 7 - 12 King James Version

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters (meaning teacher): for one is your Master (teacher), even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Jesus is asking us not to put any person above us on this earth, but to see each other as brethren on this earth.  If He is telling us not to call someone Father we also have to follow verse 10 and not call anyone teacher.   The following passages from scripture should put our mind at ease that we can indeed call a Spiritual Leader, Father.  The Bible references Spiritual Leaders as Fathers and calls other men Father.  

Elders of the Church are called "father" repeatedly in the Bible:  Acts 7:2   And Stephen said: "Brethren and fathers, hear me. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopota'mia, before he lived in Haran,  Acts 22:1  "Brethren and fathers, hear the defense which I now make before you."   1 John 2:13  I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, children, because you know the Father.

Paul calls Timothy's service to him as a son serves a "father." Philippians 2:22   But Timothy's worth you know, how as a son with a father he has served with me in the gospel.

Paul compares the Church elders' ministry to the people like a father with his children: 
1 Thessalonians 2:11  for you know how, like a father with his children, we exhorted each one of you and encouraged you and charged you

Paul calls Timothy his true "child" in the faith and his son:  2 Timothy 1:3  I thank God whom I serve with a clear conscience, as did my fathers, when I remember you constantly in my prayers.

Paul calls Titus his true "child" in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God:  Titus 1:4 To Titus, my true child in a common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.

Paul says he has become the "father" of Onesimus:  Philemon 1:10  I appeal to you for my child, Ones'imus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment.

Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his "son":  1 Peter 5:13  She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings; and so does my son Mark.

Yet again, we see John calls the elders of the Church "fathers":

1 John 2:1  My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 1 John 2:13  I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, children, because you know the Father. 1 John 2:14  I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one.
Jesus himself refers to Abraham as our "father":

Matthew 3:9  and do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father'; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham. Luke 3:8  Bear fruits that befit repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father'; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham.  

There are hundreds more...but you get the drift.


11. The Catholic church is based upon TRADITIONS and not upon the Bible.  For example: Exodus 20:4,5 commands us to never create any type of image to bow down to. Catholics bow to statues (images) of many different saints to worship God. This is idolatry. You simply CANNOT justify this type of wickedness with the Bible. God's Word clearly forbids us from bowing down to ANY graven image.

ANSWER:   The Israelites worshiped the nonexistent god the calf represented. They committed the sin of idolatry by worshiping another God. There never has been a sin of statue-making.

As a matter of fact, there are instances in the Bible when it is commanded to MAKE images!  The sin is in worshiping another God, not in making images that remind us of Heaven. For example: In Exodus, chapter 25, read the account of the ornamenting of the Ark of the Covenant. The Lord commanded that the Ark, which held the tablets of the law, be topped by statues of two cherubim. The statues were to be made of gold, and the wings of the cherubim were to be held over the Ark, as though protecting it. So here we have the Lord, in chapter 20, saying, ‘Don’t make statues’, according to Fundamentalists, and in chapter 25 the Lord says, ‘Make statues.

If we ever hold a picture of a dead loved one and kiss it, we are not worshiping them.  We are remembering them and loving them as we hold their picture.  The same thing is being done when we remember Jesus as we pray before his statue or in front of a picture of him in our home.  We may kiss a picture of him in our Bible and pray and weep.  We may pray at the foot of a statue of Mary and ask her…as part of the cloud of witnesses…to pray to Jesus for us.  We are remembering her…NOT Worshiping that statue. 

12.  Worse yet, every faithful Catholic prays to the "Mother Mary," bowing in worship. Though they claim that they are not worshipping Mary, they are violating the Bible by even bowing to her (and they certainly are worshipping her). To reverence and adore the "Mother Mary" is to commit idolatry. There is NOT one single verse in the entire Bible where Jesus told anyone to recognize Mary in any special way.

ANSWER:  (See answer to number 11)  We do not worship Mary.  She is not or savior and cannot forgive our sins.  Loving Mary is not committing idolatry, nor is asking her to pray for us.

(Luke 1:48) “All generations to come shall call me blessed”
(Luke 1:42): “and she exclaimed with a loud cry, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!”
(Luke 1:43):”And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”
 
13.  What about Jesus' half brothers and sisters? It is dangerous to add things to the Bible that it does NOT teach. Any doctrine which cannot be supported with Biblical references is a manmade doctrine.

ANSWER: When Jesus was dying on the cross, I have to wonder why Jesus would ask someone.... who is NOT His earthly brother.... to take care of Mary....IF...she had other children.  Why appoint someone else to care for her other than one of her natural born sons; a natural brother of Christ?  That would be a huge offense to Jesus' natural family IF he had other siblings.

As a protestant, I was taught that Mary had other children and I believed it because I didn't know that "brother and sister" could mean Aunt, Uncle, Cousin etc...in those days. 

For Example: Lot called Abraham’s "brother" (Gen. 14:14), even though, being the son of Haran, Abraham’s brother (Gen. 11:26–28), he was actually Abraham’s nephew. Similarly, Jacob is called the "brother" of his uncle Laban (Gen. 29:15). Kish and Eleazar were the sons of Mahli. Kish had sons of his own, but Eleazar had no sons, only daughters, who married their "brethren," the sons of Kish. These "brethren" were really their cousins (1 Chr. 23:21–22). 

SIDE NOTE: The word "Until": The most common argument against Mary's perpetual virginity is based on Matthew 1:25:  "[A]nd he did not know her until (Greek: heos, also translated into English as "till") she brought forth her firstborn son."

The inference from "till" is that Joseph and Mary afterward lived together as husband and wife, but the modern meaning of "until," is not the same as when the Bible was written. In the Bible, it means only that some action did not happen up to a certain point; it does not imply that the action did happen later.

In fact, if the modern sense is forced on the Bible, some ridiculous meanings result. Consider this line: "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children till the day of her death" (2 Sam. 6:23). Are we to assume she had children after her death?

There is also the burial of Moses. The book of Deuteronomy says that no one knew the location of his grave "until this present day" (Deut. 34:6, Knox). But we know that no one has known since that day either.

The examples could be multiplied, but you get the idea—nothing can be proved from the use of the word "till" in Matthew 1:25. Recent translations give a better sense of the verse: "He had no relations with her at any time before she bore a son" (New American Bible); "He had not known her when she bore a son" (Knox).

14. Teaching of the Immaculate Conception of Mary is heresy straight from hell. Good luck trying to prove that from the Bible. Why are people so foolish as to trust their soul's destiny to the lying words of some priest?

ANSWER: We see in Genesis 3:15 Mary, the “woman”; the Mother of the Messiah.  At that point GOD put "a condition of enmity" between her and Satan.  God himself placed that condition between her and Satan...because He can do that.  Mary’s victory over Satan would not have been perfect if she had ever been under Satan’s dominion. Consequently she entered this world with THE CONDITION OF ENMITY BETWEEN HER AND SATAN.  Her Immaculate Conception is NOT from Hell!  It is from GOD HIMSELF!

15.  Open your Bible and read it for yourself. Mary is NOT the co-redeemer!

ANSWER: Some sects of the world do put Mary in a position of worship, but this is NOT what the Catholic Church teaches. As with any religion, you will find people who go a bit "off-track" from the actual teaching of their religion. There is even a sect of Catholics who want the church to change their teaching so Mary can also forgive sins.  BUT! that is NOT what the church teaches and has been denied by council after council when anyone has tried to bring this to the table. Mary Worship is NOT something that is in the Catholic doctrine....though she is highly looked up to for her unique relationship with Christ.  There are words that are used for Mary that cause Protestants to bulk...Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.....and there HAVE been some people, and even some leaders of the Catholic Church to call her the Co-Redemptrix...weird name, sounds like some sort of warlock or whatever to me..  In the context that these terms are used, the leaders of the church are meaning that she served as Christ's mother and was there at all of the important times in His life when His work with Salvation was taking place. That is to say that Mary helped HIM do HIS work for our salvation AS HIS MOTHER.  THAT is the "Co" part of their equation.  She is NOT the person who saves sins and her work is not what saves us, but she was THERE...right beside Him... for all of it.  In "that" way they are using those terms. They are using words to honor her role in helping Christ on earth while he completed His task.  They do NOT mean that she can or ever will forgive our sins...but that she helped Jesus fulfill His work so that our sins could be saved by His one sacrifice.

I personally think they should not use the term "co-redemptrix" because it causes great confusion and could be dangerous if some uneducated people come to believe that she is a savior. 


16.  The Vatican keeps adding NEW doctrines (for example: the false doctrine of the "Immaculate Conception of Mary" didn't exist until 1950).

ANSWER:  The Vatican writes down the answer to questions.  They give people answers to questions, just as many churches in this world write down their doctrinal statements.   They write the answers as the questions are posed to them.  For Example: Mary’s Immaculate Conception was defined in Genesis 3:15.  The answer to the question posed to the Catholic Church was written down as official doctrine in 1950. They got around to writing the answer down in 1950 but the truth of the answer was written by God way before that.

17. Anyone who does not believe that Christ has completely saved him, has not completely trusted Christ to save him. That is, he does not believe that Christ's sacrifice has paid for all of his sins, and thinks he must pay for some of them himself. However, we are saved when we stop trusting what we can do, and start trusting Christ to save us.

ANSWER: Most Catholics won't say that they are "saved" because they humbly leave that to be said by Christ Himself on judgment day.  Most Catholics will humbly say that they "have hope in their salvation" in order to be reverent in front of God.  Though they know they are saved..."because hope does not disappoint" Romans 5:5... However, they will not announce their salvation before Jesus does.  If they won't say they are saved, you can imagine how difficult it would be for a practicing Catholic to tell someone that they are going to Hell. You'll be hard pressed to find one because judging people is God’s Job.    

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Kids, in the end, I think the best thing to remember is this....

Matthew 7 (KJV)

 1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

4 comments:

momwithbrownies said...

I forgot to address the question of fasting. (Meat on Friday during Lent)

I copy and pasted this because it's faster and more eloquent than my response would be today....and the kids are home...and I have to make dinner! LOL

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Lent is the 40 days before Easter in which Catholics pray, fast, contemplate, and engage in acts of spiritual self-discipline. Catholics do these things because Easter, which celebrates the Resurrection of Christ, is the greatest holy day of the Christian year (even above Christmas) and Catholics have recognized that it is appropriate to prepare for such a holy day by engaging in such disciplines.

The reason Lent lasts 40 days is that 40 is the traditional number of judgment and spiritual testing in the Bible (Gn 7:4, Ex 24:18, 34:28, Nm 13:25, 14:33, Jon 3:4). Lent bears particular relationship to the 40 days Christ spent fasting in the desert before entering into his public ministry (Mt 4:1-11). Catholics imitate Christ by spending 40 days in spiritual discipline before the celebration of Christ's triumph over sin and death.

Fasting is a biblical discipline that can be defended from both the Old and the New Testament. Christ expected his disciples to fast (Mt 9:14-15) and issued instructions for how they should do so (Mt 6:16-18). Catholics follow this pattern by holding a partial fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

Abstinence from certain foods is also a biblical discipline. In Daniel 10:2-3 we read, "In those days I, Daniel, was mourning for three weeks. I ate no delicacies, no meat or wine entered my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, for the full three weeks." Catholics use a practice similar to Daniel's when, as a way of commemorating Christ's Crucifixion on a Friday, they abstain from eating meat on that day of the week during Lent. The only kind of flesh they eat on Friday is fish, which is a symbol of Christ.

Even the Ash Wednesday practice of having one's forehead signed with ashes has a biblical parallel. Putting ashes on one's head was a common biblical expression of mourning (1 Sm 13:19, Est 4:1, Is 61:3; see also Est 4:3, Jer 6:26, Ez 27:30, Dn 9:3, Mt 11:21, Lk 10:13). By having the sign of the cross made with ashes on their foreheads, Catholics mourn Christ's suffering on the cross and their own sins, which made that suffering necessary.
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/why-do-catholics-practice-fasting-and-abstinence-during-lent

Lady Vee said...

Very interesting! I am a born again christian, probably not in favor of the catholic debate. I think there are alot of holes in their "doctrine" if you will!
Interesting Post! Hav a good one!

momwithbrownies said...

Hi Vee, :o)

I used to think they were a bit "holey" myself. (pun intended) LOL

I read the book called "No Price Too High" by a black preacher...and then I read "Rome Sweet Home" and the questions overtook me.

If you search No Price Too High and Rome Sweet Home on Amazon you'll find them. They are at least interesting to know what Catholics "think."

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